thanks for the reply.
how did you get a msg saying:
Template overall.tpl is missing
Template show_team_info.tpl is missing
cause they are there under the templates for the project, i have configured and saved them.
under the link posted above, i have the next match published to the middle space of the template. it is there, but everything under it has been pushed to the bottom of the page and should in no way get there
i currently have no data in the db cept for teams, putting in a test matchday to see what shows.
the clean install with a clean db didnt seem to fix that problem
thanks for your time and feedback.