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Euro2012/treerank

Postby comraden » Mon May 28, 2012 12:16 pm

http://treerank.llk.pl/?option=com_joom ... p=7&dvl=13

Whole tournament as a one project.
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Re: Euro2012/treerank

Postby timoline » Mon May 28, 2012 1:01 pm

cool :)
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Re: Euro2012/treerank

Postby comraden » Tue May 29, 2012 1:46 pm

http://treerank.llk.pl/?option=com_joom ... p=7&dvl=16

Ranking of second-placed teams: solved.
(I thought that this need at least one week of coding, but done in 10 minuts, he he)
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Re: Euro2012/treerank

Postby comraden » Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:47 pm

Group Standing -> means ranking after Group Stage.
All eight teams (out from Euro) could know their places in WHOLE TOURNAMENT

12. Ukraina
...
14. Polska

http://treerank.llk.pl/?option=com_joom ... p=7&dvl=26

Not: Poland took the 4th place in Group Stage
But: Poland took 14th place in Euro 2012
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Re: Euro2012/treerank

Postby timoline » Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:42 pm

is this also working with the bracket system?
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Re: Euro2012/treerank

Postby comraden » Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:00 pm

of course

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a few mathematic thesis (without proof) :whistling:
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Re: Euro2012/treerank

Postby comraden » Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:35 pm

I added:
Final bracket:
http://treerank.llk.pl/index.php?option ... &Itemid=28
Ranking from this bracket:
http://treerank.llk.pl/?option=com_joom ... p=7&dvl=27

Let the Final begin! hehehe
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Re: Euro2012/treerank

Postby comraden » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:48 am

timoline wrote:is this also working with the bracket system?

Tournaments were poorly writen since the Stone Age. ;)

Let's start from scratch.
For every tree-bracket could be created ranking.
For every round-robin could be created ranking.

Next important step:
For every round-robin could be created 2(TWO) table: ranking & standing.
Ranking is a "division view". (everybody use it)
Standing is a ranking of all teams in one table. (nobody knows about it!!!).
These TWO tables are linked together very closely.
Let me say like "Romeo & Juliet", like "In & Jang", like "+ & -".
These TWO tables contains exactly the same data.(points, goals, matches, ...)

Ranking can be learned about HOW teams splited in divisions.
Standing can be learned about HOW teams ranked.

There is only one case where ranking & standing are exactly the same:
"round-robin no split" (in jl its called "simple league").
Repeat: ONLY ONE CASE.
In every other cases TWO (ranking & standing) are needed.

Back to timoline question:
For tree-bracket exists only ONE ranking.

Lets apply this knowleage to EURO2012:
Number of stages: 4(four)
1.Qualification (double round-robin nontuple split)
2.Play-offs (double round-robin quarduple split)
3.Group phase (single round-robin quarduple split)
4.Final bracket (8 teams tree bracket best-of 1)

1. ranking + standing
2. ranking + standing
3. ranking + standing
4. ranking
As a result: 7 'rankings'
AND THE MOST IMPORTANT: FINAL STANDING
SO 8 (eight) rankings are needed for Euro2012.

Summary:
"ultimative equation of rankings"
number of needed rankings for tournaments:
2 * [stages] + 1 [final standing] - [stages as tree bracket or round-robin no split]
for Euro2012:
2 * 4 + 1 - 1 = 8

Is it understandable? :confused:
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Re: Euro2012/treerank

Postby timoline » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:04 am

Lets apply this knowleage to EURO2012:
Number of stages: 4(four)
1.Qualification (double round-robin nontuple split)
2.Play-offs (double round-robin quarduple split)
3.Group phase (single round-robin quarduple split)
4.Final bracket (8 teams tree bracket best-of 1)


IMHO, most users will only "use" the EURO2012 tournament, so 3-4.
1-2 will not be used by most of the users

my 2 cents

(Same is for WorldChampionship 2014)
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Re: Euro2012/treerank

Postby comraden » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:06 am

timoline wrote:IMHO, most users will only "use" the EURO2012 tournament, so 3-4.
1-2 will not be used by most of the users

ok, but still number of rankings:
2 * 2 + 1 - 1 = 4
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Re: Euro2012/treerank

Postby comraden » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:26 pm

http://treerank.llk.pl/?option=com_joom ... p=7&dvl=28
Final Standing of tournament.
It's mean ranking of all teams at the end of tournament.
For the first time in the history... :D
It definitelly ends phrases like:
"Poland & Ukraine ends at group phase." -> Ukraine took 12th place, Poland took 14th place.
"England out at quarterfinal" -> England took 5th place.
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